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Jennifer Stoneking
#1 Posted : Monday, April 04, 2011 11:54:46 PM(UTC)
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Moving things over from the mega thread...

 

4/4/11

I was aiming for less detail, more movement, and lots more interest to the eye. I also tried to spend less than 5 minutes on each one because I tend towards trying to flesh out details. Why detail anything when the shapes suck? -__-;; Also, trying to think of ideas on your own for armor, monsters, etc is super hard. D:

I'm still trying to get the hang of photoshop and using a tablet, and I'll do some more basic shilouettes tomorrow, this time with a bigger brush (as per someone's suggestion, but I don't remember whom). I'll pick one tomorrow or Thursday to try to refine. Any suggestions on which ones you guys like?

Jennifer Stoneking - 04.04.11

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George Kritikos
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 12:08:59 AM(UTC)
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2, 8 and 12 stand out to me the most.

Either way, can't wait to see what you come up with for your final pieces!

Horia Dociu
#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:23:41 AM(UTC)
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Jennifer, time to pick one, explore it and finish it up. I think 2, 6 and 7 show promise. good luck!
Jennifer Stoneking
#4 Posted : Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:04:31 PM(UTC)
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Thanks guys for the suggestions! I ended up picking number 2 to try to flesh out some more, so I've posted a couple of images of the process I took and a quick sketch I did to figure out some details. (Yay doodling in class!) I just couldn't get it as clean as some of you other guys, which was bugging me to high hell today. It took about 4.5 hours to get it to this point, with some help from photoshopping my head onto the body and then painting over it. (Faces are hard D: Also, I'm not blonde, but this haircut is super bad ass.)

Apologies for not getting to this sooner--being a full time student puts a lot of demands on my time (not that working doesn't for you guys either!) and I just couldn't get to it until today.

Jennifer Stoneking - 040611

 

Class doodles:

Jennifer Stoneking - 040611 - Sketches

 

The process:

Jennifer Stoneking - 040611 - Step by Step

Comments/Questions/Critiques welcome!

 

Edit: Oy! I totally forgot to try to add some textures. I'm still not sure how to do that easily, so if anyone could tell me how to do it in a couple of short steps, please let me know! Photoshop is scary and mildly confusing. The learning curve is high.

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Jennifer Stoneking
#5 Posted : Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:45:58 PM(UTC)
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Aha! I figured it out. I used an image of trees to provide the texture. I was aiming for a tribal-y, slightly druidic look, so I think it worked decently well.

Texture image: http://dublinlibrary.fil...2008/11/wicked-trees.jpg

Jennifer Stoneking - 040611 - Textured

Again, comments/critiques are welcome. :)

Edit: the layers got a little messed up and I realize that the quarterstaff she's holding is "behind" her hand

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David Morgado
#6 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:50:33 AM(UTC)
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Looking good Jennifer. You need to introduce some more form and tridimensionality to the image. As of now, it is looking somewhat flat and blurred.
Don't be afraid of using hard edges!

Hope it helps :)
Jennifer Stoneking
#7 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:02:47 PM(UTC)
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Thanks David! I definitely agree, and having the space to look at it since working on it yesterday is helping me be more objective.

I think part of the problem was that there weren't a lot of interesting shapes (in terms of 3-dimensionality) to flesh out from the get-go, and I lost a lot of the shape of the lady when I colored it--I can't really seem to find a good way to overlay color without just repainting the whole damn thing, or having it not saturated enough. Also, I should probably try to use brushes with much harder edges; I think that will help prevent an overall blurriness like in this picture.

For the next one I work on, I'll try to incorporate some of your suggestions. Thanks again :)
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Jennifer Stoneking
#8 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2011 5:22:13 PM(UTC)
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Today's work.... I shamelessly ripped off the idea of the lion's head from someone but I can't find their name! D: I used the repost Kekai put up as a reference for the headdress; I hope this isn't a problem.

Jennifer Stoneking - 040711

Jennifer Stoneking - 040711 - Step by Step

Thoughts, comments, critiques?

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Jennifer Stoneking
#9 Posted : Friday, April 08, 2011 4:40:07 PM(UTC)
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Update for 4/8/11

 

I was pretty unhappy with the way my painting turned out but I know it could be improved, so I went back to the drawingboard on that one and remade it into a shilouette, and then added some shapes onto it for some 3-dimentionality. Hopefully my attempt at hard edges worked out too.

Jennifer Stoneking - 040811

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Jennifer Stoneking
#10 Posted : Saturday, April 09, 2011 11:32:39 AM(UTC)
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Worked on amazon lady more since the start of class...

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Horia Dociu
#11 Posted : Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:49:14 PM(UTC)
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Jennifer, you asked me for some help personally about rendering. There's magic bullet to rendering, but its certainly no fault of the digital medium. There are many ways to add detail to a digital painting that are photoshop speciffic (adding overlay layers of color/texture/photo ref etc). However, your problems come from your lack of a totally solid foundation. Your darwings really arent bad, there's good stuff going on, but you'ren ot really finishing them. I dont mean, obsesing over details and polishing stuff, just finish the drawing. You gal here had no boobs or anatomy realy shaded in, that's why she looked flat. Before you worry about what they're wearing, make sure the character has all the human body parts it needs to feel real. Then construct the clothes in a realistic fashion, not like those loosey goosey lazy orange rings you put on her feet. Here's a pic of some cool rings... http://2.bp.blogspot.com...-of-the-Neck-Rings-2.jpg I see lots of shadows, reflectons and colors that your orange lines show me you didnt even try to replicate. Reference is your friend. So dont stress out about rendering and style, but rather draw the stuff out. Shade stuff like you would witha  pencil. The tool will get easier, but if you dont know your anatomy and arent able to really see whats happeing in the reference when you work your stuff wont seem believable no matter what medium. Hope the painting below helps. A good excersise would be, copy a still from a movie, and paint WHAT YOU SEE, not what you think you see. If you see rings on the feet, dont just go, ok- check rings... look how th colors hit them, if they cast shadows, how they lay on the body etc etc etc. This is visual communication here, if you get lasy ont he visuals, what else is there. I'll post some process of my pieces later, but hopefully there's stuff here for you to check out:

 

Jennifer Stoneking
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:19:47 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Horia :) I appreciate the feedback.

A life drawing book is on its way and I plan to get cracking on practicing once it gets here. In the meantime I am trying your suggestion. If time permits, I want to try to get back to amazon lady and redraw her once I've got some practice under my belt.

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Here goes with the enviro thumbs... I can already tell they're just blurry as hell. I apologize! I can't seem to keep my images clean lined. Any suggestions?

Jennifer Stoneking - 041211

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Jennifer Stoneking
#13 Posted : Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:09:35 PM(UTC)
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These two are from yesterday; I know it's not a lot but I wanted to show you guys that I'm working away. :)

Comments and critiques are welcome!

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David Morgado
#14 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2011 1:22:52 AM(UTC)
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Hi Jennifer

Try tweaking your tablet settings. You are painting too transparent, and that lends to loose hard edges, which are essential.

On these thumbs, you might want to try playing with cast shadows projected onto the objects. Don't worry if the shadow casting object is out of frame. Remember that these enviros aren't limited to what you see in the picture, there's more stuff "out there" :)
lucilemeunier
#15 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2011 2:44:53 AM(UTC)
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You should use 100% opacity brushes and biggest brushes, too many strokes makes your pictures confusing.
Jennifer Stoneking
#16 Posted : Friday, April 15, 2011 12:20:31 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the tip! I'll try that in my next sketches. :)

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Jennifer Stoneking
#17 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:53:05 PM(UTC)
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Some more work from yesterday. The top one didn't have the comments to think about while I was doing them, but it was decent enough I wanted to share it. The second one tried out the 100% opacity brushes, so hopefully it's a lot cleaner. I don't have any good experience with perspective drawings, or with figure drawing... trying to get the hang of it while also doing digital painting for the first time is really kicking my butt. Hopefully you'll see some improvement as I move along.

I want to know if my values are okay; and also if the enviro sketches I've been doing have enough visual interest to them. The top one was supposed to be the meeting of 5 cliff faces where statues of gods have been cut out of the cliff face; the second one is just a waterfall. Nothing awesome going on here, but the stautues seemed like a super cool idea.

Anyways, thanks for looking at my work guys! :)

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Edwin Rhemrev
#18 Posted : Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:22:11 AM(UTC)
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Hey Jennifer!

Some thoughts that may help you get your pictures more readable:

-Realize that any picture is made up out of a foreground, background, and a middle ground.

- Seperate these layers clearly by using different gradations of grey: the foreground layer is very dark, almost black, the middleground layer you paint as a a dark grey, and the background layer is the lightest. Here's how I've applied that into thumbnails for a personal project: http://rhemrev.com/blogspot/Pirates_PenLayouts.jpg

Hope this helps!

-Edwin

Jennifer Stoneking
#19 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:18:37 AM(UTC)
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I'm sorry guys! I've been sick, so I haven't been able to do any of my work competently, so there is nothing new. :( I'm still sick, but not the kind of sick that's debilitating anymore, so this afternoon I'll be working working working--15 WIP pieces, go Go GO!
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Jennifer Stoneking
#20 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:14:50 PM(UTC)
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Work done today: 2 environment paintings abusing the custom shapes tool in photoshop.... :D

I was thinking about how Edwin said that the environment needs to have a clear foreground, middleground, and background, so I attempted to do that through using different layers for things at different distances, and just changing opacity settings to determine how far away things were. Granted, since I was using opacity settings, there is a lot of bleed-through from layers below, but I tried to keep it as contained as possible. Please let me know what you guys think!

Jennifer Stoneking - 042111 - Enviro 1

Jennifer Stoneking - 042111 - Enviro 2

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